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	<title>Comments on: DEMOCRATIC AND ECONOMIC SYSTEM ALERT &#8211; UPGRADE REQUIRED</title>
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		<title>By: alexander curzon</title>
		<link>http://www.lobbygroup.org/2009/05/24/british-democracy-v-20/comment-page-1/#comment-660</link>
		<dc:creator>alexander curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being BANNED by the BBC is a bit like getting an ASBO  for a HOODY

Gues thats why Gordy loves me so
much. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being BANNED by the BBC is a bit like getting an ASBO  for a HOODY</p>
<p>Gues thats why Gordy loves me so<br />
much. . .</p>
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		<title>By: johnbray</title>
		<link>http://www.lobbygroup.org/2009/05/24/british-democracy-v-20/comment-page-1/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>johnbray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander - well done!  Bit of a &quot;&lt;em&gt;badge of honour&lt;/em&gt;&quot; really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander &#8211; well done!  Bit of a &#8220;<em>badge of honour</em>&#8221; really.</p>
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		<title>By: alexander curzon</title>
		<link>http://www.lobbygroup.org/2009/05/24/british-democracy-v-20/comment-page-1/#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>alexander curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello EVERYBODY

Just to let you all know that the
BBC have banned me from posting
we have started legal action,but i think it will be a LONG haul.

So congratulations on the new format etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello EVERYBODY</p>
<p>Just to let you all know that the<br />
BBC have banned me from posting<br />
we have started legal action,but i think it will be a LONG haul.</p>
<p>So congratulations on the new format etc.</p>
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		<title>By: johnbray</title>
		<link>http://www.lobbygroup.org/2009/05/24/british-democracy-v-20/comment-page-1/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>johnbray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

a very early post (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://lobbygroup.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-exactly-is-lobbying.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) might help explain the &lt;em&gt;LobbyGroup&lt;/em&gt; name a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>a very early post (see <a href="http://lobbygroup.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-exactly-is-lobbying.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>) might help explain the <em>LobbyGroup</em> name a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jericoa</title>
		<link>http://www.lobbygroup.org/2009/05/24/british-democracy-v-20/comment-page-1/#comment-656</link>
		<dc:creator>Jericoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 10:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;What&#039;s that famous saying...&#039;None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.&#039;&#039;


That about sums it up actually.

I wish i could do more but guess what!

I am too busy trying to keep my job to pay my bloody bills and taxes and keep my family stable while trying to negotiate my way through an ever more bewilderingly complex society that seems to have precious little joy in it! The very same high technology society that was supposed to use that technology, efficiency and knowledge of the world to set us free from the drudgery.

That hard won legacy has been robbed from us by continuing to use greed to drive the system when the truth is with all the technology we have now we should be able to all have a basic descent standard of living, work less, spend more time with friends and family and community and leisure activities. Creativity and other activiies that bring real value and enjoyment to society should be rewarded.

Its such a waste, we go on about wasting this that and the other material things but what about the massive waste going on at the moment in the potential for human beings to live more enjoyable lives? More enjoyable lives that should now be possible through a fairer society which makes best use of modern technology for the benefit of all, not for the unpresedented wealth of the self styled &#039;masters of the universe&#039;.

Does not the title they gave themselves say it all? These are the guys whom our politicians spend the summer as guests on their yaghts...

We are so shrouded in stink we don&#039;t smell it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;What&#8217;s that famous saying&#8230;&#8217;None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.&#8221;</p>
<p>That about sums it up actually.</p>
<p>I wish i could do more but guess what!</p>
<p>I am too busy trying to keep my job to pay my bloody bills and taxes and keep my family stable while trying to negotiate my way through an ever more bewilderingly complex society that seems to have precious little joy in it! The very same high technology society that was supposed to use that technology, efficiency and knowledge of the world to set us free from the drudgery.</p>
<p>That hard won legacy has been robbed from us by continuing to use greed to drive the system when the truth is with all the technology we have now we should be able to all have a basic descent standard of living, work less, spend more time with friends and family and community and leisure activities. Creativity and other activiies that bring real value and enjoyment to society should be rewarded.</p>
<p>Its such a waste, we go on about wasting this that and the other material things but what about the massive waste going on at the moment in the potential for human beings to live more enjoyable lives? More enjoyable lives that should now be possible through a fairer society which makes best use of modern technology for the benefit of all, not for the unpresedented wealth of the self styled &#8216;masters of the universe&#8217;.</p>
<p>Does not the title they gave themselves say it all? These are the guys whom our politicians spend the summer as guests on their yaghts&#8230;</p>
<p>We are so shrouded in stink we don&#8217;t smell it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Jericoa</title>
		<link>http://www.lobbygroup.org/2009/05/24/british-democracy-v-20/comment-page-1/#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>Jericoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 23:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A post below from the BBC blogs

Until people get off their backsides and do something no misbehaving banker will be reprimanded.

They hold all the cards in the cyber world, they hold all the atomic level indentations on hard drives which now passes for money and keep us in bondage by exchanging the illusory money and conning us into thinking it is actually worth anything.

The only way they can be taken to task is to deal with them in the real world, we can not blog our way out of this, but nobody is used to undertaking real action any more and if they do they get infiltrated by the police and arrested before any crime has been commited (as happened recently with a demonstartion for anew power station). Not to mention the CCTV cameras on every corner which act as a deterent.

Trial by jury is being rolled back because the cases are &#039;too complicated&#039; or &#039;too dangerous&#039; for joe public to be allowed to pass judgement on for white collar crime and violent crime respectively.

Nobody sees it happening because it has happened very slowly and under the disguise of &#039;protecting us&#039; or making things more efficient or &#039; making us safer&#039; but you add it all up and Orwell was right.

There is still enough of the laws and proceedures in place that our ancestors fought and died for to roll this emerging nightmare back but there is not much time, and precious little action that I can see.

wake up everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A post below from the BBC blogs</p>
<p>Until people get off their backsides and do something no misbehaving banker will be reprimanded.</p>
<p>They hold all the cards in the cyber world, they hold all the atomic level indentations on hard drives which now passes for money and keep us in bondage by exchanging the illusory money and conning us into thinking it is actually worth anything.</p>
<p>The only way they can be taken to task is to deal with them in the real world, we can not blog our way out of this, but nobody is used to undertaking real action any more and if they do they get infiltrated by the police and arrested before any crime has been commited (as happened recently with a demonstartion for anew power station). Not to mention the CCTV cameras on every corner which act as a deterent.</p>
<p>Trial by jury is being rolled back because the cases are &#8216;too complicated&#8217; or &#8216;too dangerous&#8217; for joe public to be allowed to pass judgement on for white collar crime and violent crime respectively.</p>
<p>Nobody sees it happening because it has happened very slowly and under the disguise of &#8216;protecting us&#8217; or making things more efficient or &#8216; making us safer&#8217; but you add it all up and Orwell was right.</p>
<p>There is still enough of the laws and proceedures in place that our ancestors fought and died for to roll this emerging nightmare back but there is not much time, and precious little action that I can see.</p>
<p>wake up everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jericoa</title>
		<link>http://www.lobbygroup.org/2009/05/24/british-democracy-v-20/comment-page-1/#comment-654</link>
		<dc:creator>Jericoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GT,

Dont forget to give us a plug while you do the sound check on stage...

Check one two....lobbygroup.org if you want to know whats really going on and participate in changing it...

Bit of a mouthful though..especially in Japanese!

Welcome to Hawkeye as a member by the way, definately on our wavelength from his numerous well researched posts on the BBC blogs.

I keep on tinkering with the manifestos to bring in new ideas I come across, I could do with a bit more feedback and debate on them though which is still abit lacking since we started to promote the site.

Up to 25 members now

Just got to keep plugging away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GT,</p>
<p>Dont forget to give us a plug while you do the sound check on stage&#8230;</p>
<p>Check one two&#8230;.lobbygroup.org if you want to know whats really going on and participate in changing it&#8230;</p>
<p>Bit of a mouthful though..especially in Japanese!</p>
<p>Welcome to Hawkeye as a member by the way, definately on our wavelength from his numerous well researched posts on the BBC blogs.</p>
<p>I keep on tinkering with the manifestos to bring in new ideas I come across, I could do with a bit more feedback and debate on them though which is still abit lacking since we started to promote the site.</p>
<p>Up to 25 members now</p>
<p>Just got to keep plugging away.</p>
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		<title>By: goldtop</title>
		<link>http://www.lobbygroup.org/2009/05/24/british-democracy-v-20/comment-page-1/#comment-653</link>
		<dc:creator>goldtop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A general resources page outside the main one seems like a perfectly reasonable compromise to me..lets do it..&quot;

i`ll get on it (sorry about the capitalisation error there- i`m on a keyboard in japan and can`t figure how to get the caps on!). may take a short while though- lots of travelling and working going on at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A general resources page outside the main one seems like a perfectly reasonable compromise to me..lets do it..&#8221;</p>
<p>i`ll get on it (sorry about the capitalisation error there- i`m on a keyboard in japan and can`t figure how to get the caps on!). may take a short while though- lots of travelling and working going on at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jericoa</title>
		<link>http://www.lobbygroup.org/2009/05/24/british-democracy-v-20/comment-page-1/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>Jericoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A general resources page outside the main one seems like a perfectly reasonable compromise to me..lets do it..

Somebody else had a go at answering the question in a modern economical sense but a lot of their response was evasion relying on semantics, even they gave up in the end when it came down to &#039;peak oil&#039; aka lack of available natural resources in general at a reasonable price to maintain growth.

I have picked up a few ideas from the blogs along the way and will have ago at updating/ adding to some of the manifesto points when I get chance.

Just got to keep plugging away I guess until something coherent appears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A general resources page outside the main one seems like a perfectly reasonable compromise to me..lets do it..</p>
<p>Somebody else had a go at answering the question in a modern economical sense but a lot of their response was evasion relying on semantics, even they gave up in the end when it came down to &#8216;peak oil&#8217; aka lack of available natural resources in general at a reasonable price to maintain growth.</p>
<p>I have picked up a few ideas from the blogs along the way and will have ago at updating/ adding to some of the manifesto points when I get chance.</p>
<p>Just got to keep plugging away I guess until something coherent appears.</p>
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		<title>By: Leanomist</title>
		<link>http://www.lobbygroup.org/2009/05/24/british-democracy-v-20/comment-page-1/#comment-651</link>
		<dc:creator>Leanomist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jericoa: Happy either way, and a general resource page like Goldtop has suggested sounds a great idea too ...

PS I started to help trying to answer the question you&#039;ve  posed on Stephanomics today ... a good question and I think most politicians etc wouldn&#039;t have a clue how to answer it ... !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jericoa: Happy either way, and a general resource page like Goldtop has suggested sounds a great idea too &#8230;</p>
<p>PS I started to help trying to answer the question you&#8217;ve  posed on Stephanomics today &#8230; a good question and I think most politicians etc wouldn&#8217;t have a clue how to answer it &#8230; !</p>
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