Environmental Issues






13 Feb 2009

First posted on the original Lobby Group blog by contributor Coral Bloom-

Modern governments and businesses do not use Full Cost Accounting Techniques. This must be implemented across all sectors. Regardless of your personal views on Global Warming, there is not one single reason why you or an organisation should trash planet earth. You would not dream of inviting someone into you home if you thought they would trash your home. Planet earth is no different. Globalisation is based on consumerism. This relies on removing all resources from the earth at a far higher rate than the earth will ever replenish them (limited sources of coltan is one prime example). Full compensation should be appropriate, including the cost of replacement, the cost of landscape wound healing. A global government will be required to administer a global economy (UN Security Council failures, makes this scary).



comments . . .

13 Feb 2009
bobajob
Carbon credits and emissions scheme seems to be the start of the costing of damage to our environment. However, whenever I read about it, they are being given out free in certain industries and there is much wrangling and discussion about allocations. The scheme needs to be made more universally understood. The price of a credit last friday was €9.87. I will try and do some research on the who, when, where, what and why of this. I would like to understand more about it.

13 Feb 2009
OldNick666
bobajob
Try this article

http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0901/carbon-swindle-0901.cfm

Lewis, D. "The Great Carbon Credit Swindle" Engineering & Technology, 17 Jan - 30 Feb 2009, pp 62,63.

13 Feb 2009
bobajob
I've located the "official" version at:

http://www.carbontrust.co.uk/climatechange/policy/eu_ets.htm

Thanks OldNick666, I'll check your references.

13 Feb 2009
bobajob
"The road to hell is paved with good? intentions"

13 Feb 2009
OldNick666
CoralBloom

"The eurozone economy shrank by 1.5% in the previous quarter and 1.2% on the year, Eurostat said."

And that is a bad thing?

Surely there is a good correlation between economic activity and use of the planet's resources. Recession must therefore be good for the planet.

Probably the worst thing you can do for the consumption of resources is to have a child.

13 Feb 2009
CoralBloom
No one has ever explained to me why we need economic growth.

1.How much in terms of resources does one of our 'First World' child cost compared to a child of the 'Third World'
2. Why is there a difference?

15 Feb 2009
Jericoa
Economic growth is useful up to a point, at some point it has to become more sustainable and value driven rather than 'wealth creation' driven.

I think we are at that point.

The starting point for all of this has to be population control, which means tackling certain religions, without population control it will not make any difference what we do in the long run.

15 Feb 2009
CoralBloom
Jericoa,

Yes. Population is THE key issue. Whether we like it or not.

If the human race does not make deliberate descisions to take population in hand, then I'm afraid Nature will do it for us. Any of David Attenburough's films illustrate the effects.

People complain about short-term thinking by bosses and politicians. But this is one issue everyone has to make their own, long term decisions. This is the one sure thing we can control very easily.

24 Feb 2009
OldNick666
James Lovelock is interesting on the subject of population.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2008/mar/01/scienceofclimatechange.climatechange

He was on the Today Programme today.